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Events for Youth Ministers / Re: Exciting Preparations for CYMFED Congress
« on: February 26, 2013, 11:06:52 AM »
I have booked my long weekend in Whitley Bay

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Events for Youth Ministers / Re: Youthwork Summit 2012
« on: April 12, 2012, 09:15:32 AM »
I went to Youth Work Summit in Salford last year and thought it excellent. The selection of speakers were outstanding and I particularly liked how everything moved so quickly. No lengthy lectures to doze off too but lots of short, provocative, and inspirational input.

I went on my own but think the experience would have been enhanced had I been with others. For me the only negative was that it was all a bit loud for my tastes - my left ear suffers painfully with high volume and I was troubled by the worship music and left early to avoid the same problem at the end.

I would have gone back this year but it clashes with our AGM. So I will be in Bristol.

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Lourdes pilgrimages, world youth days, youth retreats, flame... the problem of how to sustain enthusiasm after a big event when the mundane of the day-to-day is returned to is an old one.

Always impressed that the strategy in Hexham and Newcastle includes community development work for a year before and after a school mission  in order to support parishes in their efforts to sustain that enthusiasm once the excitement of the event is diminished. I don't know how successful it is - I am not in that part of the world to see - but it seems an eminently sensible idea.

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CYMFed Flame Congress 2012 / Re: A load of Flame stuff in the news
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:17:20 PM »
there is a lesson here about not believing that the top Google result is the person you are looking for.

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David Wells is an outstanding astrologer, past life therapist, author, teacher and presenter whose unique sense of humour and vibrant personality captivates audiences far and wide

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CYMFed Flame Congress 2012 / Re: A load of Flame stuff in the news
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:02:45 PM »
Do you think where the Salesian News site says:

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Speaker guests for the day included the astrologer and author David Wells


they have got the wrong fella?

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groups or individuals?

Palestine Pilgrimage has taken several school groups to the Palestine/Israel with a particular remit to experience occupation and meet young people living with the realities of life under occupation (particularly for the Palestinian Christian community).

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It inspired a lot of people to want to make a difference and think about what they can do to help. Which if nothing else is a good starting point for development education. So rather than deciding whether it is good or bad - which I got caught up in a little yesterday - perhaps using the passion it has engendered to encourage critical thinking about issues and how we might support them is a way forward?

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for me it depends how one interprets 'day off'...

I do not like the logic that goes:
I have given up wine so on Sunday I am going to go all out to ensure I drink wine (and plenty of it) to get me through the week ahead.

However the following argument I do subscribe to:
I have given up wine but, since I am going to have a celebratory family meal on Sunday (as we always do as part of making Sunday special), then I will have a glass or two with that meal in order to highlight that today is a feast day and a cause to celebrate.

Does that distinction make sense? I hope so


Do people who 'do something extra for lent' take Sundays off?

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This is a question they are putting a lot of thought into in the Liverpool diocese at the moment inspired by the moving of confirmation to age 7(ish) and the desire to continue working with teenagers in parishes. Next Saturday there is the second day about resourcing and encouraging parish youth workers and an impressive list of Catholic organisations are going along once more to share how they can support parish youth work. The first event was excellent. The second look like it will be better.

This is a very specific Liverpool thing so I don't know if they would be open to a visitor from elsewhere (you can but ask) but if you knew anyone from Liverpool who is to be at that day they may share some ideas and resources with you

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I don't know if it quite hits the mark but paragraph 8 of the Vatican II document on the laity Decree on the Apostolate of Lay People is about charitable works and social aid which places love of neighbour alongside love of God at the heart of the Christian life.

Then something like the Catholic Social Teaching website might highlight how the church understands that love of neighbour as being much broader than giving money

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Catholic World Youth Day / Re: The Controversy of WYD Rio
« on: January 11, 2012, 09:49:24 AM »
Quote from: Annie
Well, maybe I used the title "shanty town" too losely. All I heard was there was going to be some kind of "clearing" of some area(s) and that it was a moral issue and there were safety concerns. I wish there were a way of finding out more information about this. It would be a good thing to look into and debate with young people. I don't think the Church would or could be party to such a thing but given the close proximity of the WC and WYD it is easy to be tarnished with the same brush I suppose.

ALSO...all of the above may not be accurate. I keep on adding these disclaimers purely because the whole thing is vague!

I asked a couple of clued up j&p people who I thought would know and they can shed no light on the matter. Not quite sure where else to turn but will keep asking folk.

Maybe I should email Tim Vickery (South American football expert on the world football phone in on 5Live). He ought to know if there are any misdeeds

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Catholic World Youth Day / Re: The Controversy of WYD Rio
« on: January 10, 2012, 02:49:57 PM »
Quote from: Annie
They are basically clearing the people who live in these shanty towns off the land to make way for the World Cup but the church is seemingly taking a hammering for this too.

Quote from: MustBeTheJanay
I am boycotting the World Cup (very hard for me) because of the clearing of Shanty towns and little information as to what will happen to the people who live there currently.

Is there somewhere I can find out more about the World Cup Shanty town clearances?

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Welcome to the site Chris.

Sadly the tradition of Jack buying a pint for every new member is long since ended. But he sometimes bakes for us

Good to have you hereabouts



*not every claim made in this post is entirely true

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We had a lengthy discussion about this with respect to Amnesty International at our parish Justice and Peace group. We decided that formally or informally aligning the parish with AI was inappropriate but supporting specific campaigns was both reasonable and tactically astute.

Things get more complicated where fundraising is concerned - we acknowledged that even specifying where money is spent frees money elsewhere for spending on stuff we wouldn't all be terribly happy to support - but we don't much go in for fundraising so it was not a big issue for us and we didn't linger long on this discussion. Interesting as it is.

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According to the Tablet this week, Bolton Wanderers' manager Owen Coyle is happy to speak of his Catholic faith to the press

Wanderers give thanks

AFTER SEVEN successive defeats at home, Bolton Wanderers’ return to form was dramatic with a 5-0 win over Stoke City last Sunday. The manager of the premiership team, Owen Coyle, has attributed the victory at the Reebok Stadium to divine intervention and thanked his parish priest for including the hymn “Hail, Queen of Heaven” at Mass the night before. The first verse of the hymn includes the lines, “Mother of Christ, star of the sea, pray for the wanderer, pray for me.” Speaking to the BBC after the game, Mr Coyle said: “I had a good feeling coming into the match. I went to Mass last night. The leaving hymn was ‘Pray for the wanderer’, so I need to thank my parish priest for that.” Mr Coyle and his family are active members of the parish of St Mary’s in Langho, Lancashire, and the Diocese of Salford. The parish priest, Fr Leo Heakin, a Burnley fan, said: “After Mass, Owen turned to me and thanked me for the hymn. I went to Lourdes recently and brought him back rosary beads. I’m glad they have worked.”

I must point out that the victory is all to do with God being a Port Vale fan and loving seeing Sjoke destroyed 5-0 rather than God intervening on behalf of Wanderers specifically  :)

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School Chaplains' Chat (Catholic Schools) / Re: Good Speakers
« on: November 01, 2011, 07:22:52 PM »
There are several (or many) members of this site who would be excellent. They might not be in the business of giving talks to headteachers but there is no reason why they shouldn't be. I'll start the list with:

Jack Regan and Anne-Marie Lavelle

but there are many more.

I find I am increasingly getting bored of the usual suspects; we need more people on the speakers circuit. There is such a wealth of wisdom and experience yet we always seem to fall back on the same familiar 'experts'.
Annie, this could be an opportunity to introduce a hitherto (relatively) unknown to that world  :)

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Quote from: ClareLouise
I was encouraged by my spiritual director not to take on any additional youth ministry outside of school.

I spent ages trying to ensure I did not do much beyond work for the sake of my relationship, energy and sanity. And then it all went wrong in three weeks in June when I got into a terrible habit of agreeing to things. So now I am on the PPC, trying to organise a parish justice and peace group and am running a youth group in the next door parish.

I tell myself that I am giving them a few months to see how they effect things but the truth is I rather enjoy the new stuff (except the PPC which is tedious) and am unlikely to stop them easily

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Quote from: CYW.com
Meanwhile, there was concern that cuts in budgets for work with young people would significantly undermine the Big Society initiative.[/i]"

On that theme; our colleagues in the statutory sector are certainly having a rough time with cuts to services and job losses - which have a huge effect on young people.

The latest Rapport (September 2011) covers the service cuts in great detail and their [negative] impact both on professionals (which, being a union rag, the focus is mostly on) and also, more relevant to this topic, young people.

(Rapport is the journal of my union, the CYWU)

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Should school chaplains join teaching unions? and strike?
Quick thoughts while I am passing this way...

Should they join teaching unions? I tend to think that one should join a union (for the legal support if nothing else) but perhaps there are more suitable ones for the specific needs of the chaplain. I am a member of CYWU, part of Unite - although admittedly not as a chaplain - because in catering for youth workers it is much more how I understand church youth work thanthose which exist for formal educators.

Should they strike? A question I have asked myself given that my union might well strike soon... Part of being in Unite means I am in a union with some of the hardest hit. Justice demands that I stand in solidarity with them. But striking when one works for a social justice organisation which would probably class standing on the picket line in solidarity as work is absurd. So I won't formally strike but mission demands I do something.

Is ministering to teachers on the picket line part of the chaplain's job?

[Sorry, I tend to see an interesting topic and post without looking at the board. just seen that this is school chaplain's chat and therefore not a place for me as such. Happy for mods to delete this if I have spoken out of turn]

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I went to a training session on this put on by Amnesty, The Three Faiths Forum and others. It was really a day on how to deal with controversial issues but linked in with 11 September and was quite excellent.

Most striking for me was the interviews with students who had no real idea of the story. How amazing to think of such a significant event in our lives happened when those in year 7 were still in nappies. There were loads of resources which if I remember I will link to tomorrow when I am back at my desk.

Would be fascinated to know, in conversation with yp how many know the story of 11 September and how many people's telling is woven in with the myths and conspiracy theories that abound. And how you go about myth-busting (if indeed you do)
[Myth-busting was a significant part of the training day I went on and was fascinating!]

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I'm Matt. I am the youth and schools worker for Pax Christi. I did some other stuff, retreat centre, chaplaincy, parish stuff and the like, but that all seems a long time ago. I am a great supporter of Cake Thursday and, since it is Thursday, recommend you have cake.

Any heresy, indiscipline or scandalous opinion posted under this username is purely my own. If I am posting in a professional capacity I tend to ...

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